Watch founder James Edgell join host Brian Lofrumento on The Wantrepreneur to Entrepreneur Podcast to discuss AI-assisted no-code business software, replacing spreadsheets, and building custom applications without maintaining your own codebase.
Episode 1570 · Host: Brian Lofrumento · Guest: James Edgell, Founder of SoftEXIT · Published: September 17, 2026 · Runtime: Approximately 35 minutes
In this episode of The Wantrepreneur to Entrepreneur Podcast, host Brian Lofrumento talks with SoftEXIT founder James Edgell about making custom business applications more accessible to entrepreneurs and small businesses.
They explore why manual processes and disconnected spreadsheets can hold back growing companies, how AI-assisted configuration differs from generating custom code, and how business owners can identify practical opportunities to simplify their operations.
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James Edgell, Founder of SoftEXIT
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1570 · September 17, 2026
Explore how scattered files and manual work can limit visibility, accuracy, and growth.
Understand the difference between AI-configured applications and generating custom source code.
Think about software for customers, inventory, operations, reporting, and everyday workflows.
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00:00 Hey, what is up? Welcome to this episode of the Wantrepreneur to Entrepreneur Podcast. As always, I'm your host, Brian
00:06 Lofrumento, and we are all in for an absolute treat today because today's guest is the
00:12 real deal. I've been so excited about this conversation and very excited for all of us to learn from him. Let me
00:18 introduce you to James Edgell. James is a technology executive, entrepreneur, and founder of SoftEXIT with a career
00:25 spanning IBM, Motorola, Deloitte, and McDonald's. As a key technology leader
00:30 behind McDonald's mobile app and in restaurant kiosk initiatives, he helped
00:36 deliver digital platforms that have served literally millions of customers.
00:41 Throughout his career, James has built and scaled technology products, led global engineering teams, and helped
00:47 organizations turn complex business challenges into practical solutions. Today, he is developing SoftEXIT
00:54 Studio, which is an AI enabled platform that makes custom business software more
00:59 accessible and more affordable for small and midsize companies. I'm so excited
01:04 about this one. Let's dive straight into my interview with James Edgell.
01:14 [music]
01:20 All right, James, I am so very excited that you're here with us today. First things first, welcome to the show.
01:26 Thank you, Brian. It's an honor to be here. Heck yes. I'm so excited to talk about all the amazing things that you are up
01:32 to and we are definitely going to dive deep into the world of software. But before we get there, you've got to take us beyond the bio. Who's James? How'd
01:39 you start doing all these cool things? So, my career is basically technical.
01:44 Uh, I started out as a programmer, started working for various companies, really enjoyed it. Uh, got frustrated
01:50 with management uh, at the time way back. Uh, they really didn't have a handle on technology and I said, you
01:57 know, I think I could do this and I jumped into management and it was great. No, it wasn't. I was terrible. I was
02:02 terrible manager for first year and then I really learned how to manage from a mentor at Motorola. But then I've worked
02:09 for various companies delivering great incredible software and really enjoy the tech. I keep my hands in tech and now
02:17 I'm starting my own company and I'm really excited to be here. I know it sounds like a cliche but we've been working on this product for about a year
02:24 and a half and wow we are excited to release it. So great to be here, great to talk with you. Great to talk about
02:30 any of this. Heck yes. I love the energy to go along with it. James, you are one of those
02:35 people that I can very confidently say here on the air that your energy, your excitement totally matches the skills
02:42 and everything that you've put together in your professional career up to this point. So, James, I'm not going to stop you there. Introduce listeners to Soft
02:48 Exit Studio because I am equally excited at what it is that you guys are rolling out. All right. So, great. I' love to
02:55 talk about this. I'm not a professional speaker. I'm more of a tech guy. So, um not going to be very polished. But
03:01 SoftEXIT Studio is a platform. Uh it's not really a dedicated application. It's
03:07 a platform for building applications. Although we will start building applications on it and releasing it in
03:13 our app store. So essentially it's a no-code platform. It is you could do anything that a database can do. It's
03:19 got digital dashboards. It's got forms. It's got Kanban boards. It's got
03:24 everything there is. You could build a CRM in it. You could build an inventory platform. It's extremely easy to work
03:31 with. It's very pleasant on the eyes. It's got a nice modern look as well. It's got high performance. It's got the
03:37 security. It's got everything we always wanted to use in an application wherever I worked, but it was just simply never
03:43 available. It was either too complicated, too expensive. And that's the other thing. We're targeting
03:48 SoftEXIT Studio for companies that can't afford this enterprise platforms that are expensive and get more expensive
03:55 every day. We keep hearing complaints that, "Wow, I started with this platform. I really liked it, but they
04:00 they doubled the price over the last 2 years." And this is something we're not going to do. In fact, right now, we're
04:07 offering early adapters to get on board at 50% off at a lifetime price. And it's
04:14 really inexpensive. uh the the monthly price per user is only $14 a month
04:20 compared to like you know the big the big packages like Salesforce and and uh
04:26 Airtable, things like that. They're very expensive. This is affordable and we're targeting markets that really are
04:32 smaller to midsize companies that can't afford this enterprise type of software. Plus, you're not only limited, you can
04:39 build anything you want in this with the AI Architect. You literally just say, "Hey, you know what? I need an inventory
04:44 system that tracks POS and suppliers and the inventory and and it just builds it
04:50 for you. You wait about 10 minutes uh which is way faster than waiting on any
04:56 developer and then it builds the platform. And the nice thing about this is it's not building code which you have
05:02 to debug and host and do all those things. It's configuring an application that's stable and proven and there are
05:08 no bugs. Essentially, it's a configuration. Then you have this application that you can customize and
05:14 you can extend it further on. You don't have to continuously accept what AI hands you. It's it's pretty amazing. It
05:21 it will take too long to describe it, so I'll cut myself off here and it's very easy for me to go on and on about this
05:26 product. James, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me like there are four lanes that we need to address in this
05:33 conversation because I think that that is a key part of your differentiation. And those four lanes from my perspective are one, if I'm a business owner, I can
05:39 try to find software and finagle it so it hopefully fits my business, but as you already called out, I'm at the mercy
05:46 of those vendors and their pricing and their bugs and their feature updates and all that. Two, I could just forego that
05:53 technology and just not have it at my fingertips even though it's in my head already and even though I know it would
05:58 make my business and my workflows and everything better. Three, I could try to
06:03 be one of those people that hops on to YouTube University and tries desperately to figure out Claude Code or Codex even
06:09 though I have no development back background and have never coded in my life. Or for what you're talking about,
06:16 this is an important lane because it is part of your differentiation is that platform is that you guys are the tech
06:21 heads here. You guys are the developers. You have code that you know that works and is flexible for me to use it. Talk
06:28 to us about those four different channels and why it's that fourth one that you guys really sit in and why you
06:33 as someone who you've built software as a career. You you understand this stuff in and out. Why is this the best
06:39 approach moving forward for your average business owner? So, it's it's easy to use. That's the
06:46 first thing. Uh every time we work with stuff that is in the cloud, it's supposed to be no code. We find
06:52 ourselves scratching our heads saying, you know, where do I configure this? uh I got to be a you know a functional
06:57 consultant in order to build software on this thing. It can be done so much easier and I think being small really
07:05 helps us cuz we we give our each other feedback immediately and say you know what this this is terrible this is hard
07:11 to use. It's clunky and we go back and we make it so it's easy to use because we don't want to slow down our business
07:19 trying to figure out how to be a a functional consultant. So we made this extremely easy to use. We made it
07:25 affordable. We made it uh so that it's available to everyone that can't afford
07:31 like enterprise software and we run into this all the time. we see that's great software but you know I just can't
07:37 afford it and they end up dropping back to spreadsheets and a lot of companies do that and then when they start to grow
07:44 that kind of plateaus their success because now they're in all these spreadsheets up to their neck and none
07:50 of them work together and and they are outdated and they have different versions that are competing within the
07:55 company and we've constantly seen this pattern over and over and on top of that
08:01 building software as you you say we've built software ware so many times that we see patterns on things that are
08:07 requested all the time. It's always a data entry screen. It's always a dashboard, right? It's these are very
08:12 common tools and they're very powerful, but everybody builds them from scratch and they start over or they start a new
08:19 platform. We wanted to put this all in one package so that it was nicely put together so it's easy to use and people
08:26 stop thinking about the software and start focusing on their business. Yeah,
08:31 I love that. Speaking of focusing on our business, James, you called out a very real business pain already, which is
08:37 when we are building these things ad hoc or using spreadsheets, they don't talk to each other. And obviously business is
08:43 about integrations. Talk to us. I'm sure you guys have had deep thought and you've very much integrated this into
08:49 your solution, but what do integrations look like? Because that's a common business problem of tools not talking to
08:55 each other. [snorts] So everything can be done in this tool. you can build, you know, essentially any
09:01 type of data entry system. It'll all be in one platform. So, you don't have to go in integrate everything. Uh it's so
09:09 easy to work with that you'll be expanding into our product rather than trying to stitch 10 tools together
09:16 because it's really flexible. So, for example, let's say you go take an off-the-shelf uh cloud inventory system
09:23 and you wanted to talk to your CRM. Well, you could build both in these. It's so easy to do. And even if you
09:29 don't have the skills, you just ask AI, our AI Architect to do it for you. Then it builds the solution and then you just
09:36 incorporate that into the overall product that you're building itself. And since our menus don't have any
09:42 limitations like other other products, you can build a massive application in
09:47 this with a very easy to use pull down menu system that everyone's familiar with. And you could have a section for
09:53 accounting, you could have a section for sales, you can build all that out.
09:58 I I want to talk about that AI integration because as someone I definitely I'm a tinkerer and
10:03 experimentter. I've been a lifelong entrepreneur and I feel like that's part of what it means to be an entrepreneur is just to be playing with things and
10:09 pushing the envelope and expanding. And one thing that I find so I'll use the word funny, but I could equally use
10:15 frustrating about using AI is if you don't prompt it the exact same way. And I noticed this sometimes when I prompt
10:21 AI, I realize ah it is laser focusing on this one ingredient of what I typed, but
10:26 that is the smallest thing of exactly what I meant. It just AI seems to run with things in directions that maybe we
10:33 don't always intend for it to. Talk to us about your approach with AI because I know that it is so at the heart of the
10:39 way that you make this userfriendly. Do we have to be prompting experts? Do we have to do it a certain way? Talk to us
10:45 about how we get AI to assist us in what it is that we're actually imagining.
10:51 So the thing is is you're not starting from scratch, right? And when you go to AI and you say, "Hey, build me an
10:56 application." Uh, one, you can't say a simple sentence and it builds you something like a Salesforce. You can't
11:02 say, "Build me Salesforce. Wouldn't that be nice?" Right? then you could have anything. This is on a predefined
11:08 platform, so it's going to have very standard forms and very standard uh lists and very standard dashboards and
11:15 things like that. It's going to configure it. And that's what makes it really nice. It it basically you ask for
11:22 it to to solve a problem for you by saying, "Hey, here's a gap that we're not tracking and we need something where
11:28 people can enter things in and then we need to see what the results are." This is all very standard and it configures
11:35 it out for you. It saves you hours and hours and hours of work. So, and then once you have it, you're very familiar
11:41 already with the interface. The data entry forms all work the same. It's not going to be different every time you regen it. It's not going to be a
11:48 knowledge transfer issue every time you add new features because the AI decided
11:54 to do a new way of doing the user interface. It's going to be very consistent. And I think that's what we
12:00 really like about our AI platform is its configuration and not writing. So you're not getting new bugs and things of that
12:07 nature. The other thing I'd like to emphasize that I'm not sure uh it stands out with our product is we don't charge
12:14 for AI tokens. It's all part of the package. So if you want to build a system that's for whatever you're
12:21 building and you you generate it, you can generate it into the solution and that's kind of like your sandbox. And if
12:26 you don't like it, you regen it again or regen it again. Then once you get it the way you like, you can tweak it and
12:31 customize it. And then you could take that and merge it into your main core product. So that then you have a great
12:39 platform that's very consistent and doesn't go onto tangents as you say and and it's stable and it's already running
12:46 on proven code so you're not getting security issues or bugs. Yeah, I love that. James, I I also
12:52 appreciate that you called out about the AI token usage as one of your differentiators because a lot of people
12:58 are going to wonder, well, can't I just hop on AI Studio, Google AI Studio, and
13:03 I I'll fully confess, James, that when Google AI Studio launched, my dad is not technical in any way, but I got him
13:09 excited. I showed him, hey, the example that I used with him is you could create a Packers trivia game, and and this has
13:15 never been made before, and you can just create it with the AI studio in 5 minutes or less. and he started trying to use it to create things that were
13:21 actually of use to him like a portfolio tracker and other things before he quickly ran into James which I think
13:26 everybody runs into when they use a tool like Google AI Studio is that there's no backend. Sure, it can create really cool
13:32 looking pretty frontends but there's no underlying true software that powers
13:38 this thing. Obviously, not every listener is going to have a technical background. talk to us about the importance of front end and backend when
13:45 we're talking about softwares and really how you guys plug that gap even without anyone understanding what a front end or
13:52 a back end is. So that's you you touched on a very
13:57 important topic AI. AI does a really good job of coding and it replaces that element. But there's so much more to an
14:05 application than coding that uh newbies are not aware of. You're right. You have to host it. You have to worry about the
14:11 security. Not only do you have to host it in security, you have to worry about the uptime. What happens when it goes down at 4 in the morning? Are you going
14:18 to wake up and start tinkering with something you don't really fully understand? Do you really want to take
14:23 on all that burden? Cuz AI only solves really the coding issue. It's not doing
14:29 the hosting for you. It's not doing all the the the testing and the BA work that
14:34 is all done. Software development is a very complicated beast. uh AI makes it more reachable. It lowers the bar for
14:42 entry, but it doesn't solve a lot of the problems of running a professional system full-time. And yeah, you do have
14:49 to find a host, right? And even if you find a host, then they're going to charge you uh plus AI tokens can get
14:56 really expensive uh very quickly, especially with tweaks because it's rewriting an application from scratch
15:01 really every time. Even though you're adding a feature, you're really asking it to rewrite the whole thing. Uh you
15:07 also have challenges with AI hallucinations uh or what I call feature drift where
15:13 you had features that you worked on for a month and then you were working on another part of the application and it
15:18 rewrites the system and it pulls out features that you had stable because you haven't asked for them in a while and AI
15:24 prioritizes things. It figures well you know James hasn't asked me about inventory so I'm going to just remove
15:30 that and all of a sudden you go to use inventory and it's gone. That's the challenges with AI development today.
15:37 So, and then we host for you. We do the backups for you. It's everything. You just log in. It's very affordable. I I I
15:43 don't know why anyone would go the AI route for the type of platform that we're offering. They could use AI for
15:49 other exciting things, but for this, I think it's more economical and safer to
15:54 go with SoftEXIT Studio than it is to try and roll it your own if you're not in the business.
16:00 Yeah. That said, James, I will throw it out there that one of the reasons why I think most people won't dip their toes
16:07 into custom software is that they're limited by their imagination. And I think that's the very fun world that we
16:13 live in these days is if you can dream it. And who understands our businesses better than us, the founders? And we can
16:19 imagine a world where our business functions a heck of a lot better. If only we allowed ourselves to view it
16:25 through the lens of I don't have to fit into a box. I can actually have custom software that plugs that gap for me. And
16:31 so now we're in this world where if I can dream it, I can do it. That said, not everybody has practiced that line of
16:38 thought just yet, James. Not everybody thinks that way. So you've given some really good examples already in our
16:43 conversation. I'll call out inventory management, a CRM, which I would argue every single business on Earth needs a
16:48 CRM. So we already know that there are softwares that every business has or needs. What's your advice for listeners
16:55 who are tuning into today's episode saying, "James, I don't know what I would build custom software for. I can't
17:01 even imagine what that would look like and what that would be." How can you lead them to that path of uncovering
17:07 what those needs are in this totally new world where anything is possible?
17:12 So, I totally get that and I understand the creative foe sometimes can be the
17:18 blank sheet of paper. It's like, "Okay, now what?" Right? People can build on something that exists because they have
17:24 great ideas and extend it out. But when you're faced with a blank slate, it can be very intimidating. So we realized the
17:31 same thing when we started looking at applications. What are we going to build? And then we all looked at each other and go, you know what, we haven't
17:38 thought about that. So over time we realized that everyone else was going to face the same issue. So, what we did to
17:44 address this is we're building an we have already is an app store and we're
17:50 going to release applications and they're all going to be free from SoftEXIT. Uh they're they're going to have
17:56 like a basic CRM or a basic inventory or a basic different products that that meet uh business needs that are the
18:02 obvious ones, right? And then all they have to do is, you know, peruse a store and they pick something, they click it
18:08 and it installs and they have an existing application. So we're not just one platform. We're going to be many,
18:14 many applications that you can download and install into your system. So and
18:19 then once it's installed, it's not like it's code that you can't touch. It's all
18:25 configured. If you say, "Hey, you know what? Inventory doesn't have three fields that we really need for our
18:30 specific business or our vertical." You can just go in like a database, add the three fields, add them to the form, and
18:37 you're up and running. And you don't have to wait for a developer to test it out. Uh since it's all pre-ested and
18:43 proven code, you can do it live runtime right away. So manager calls you up and says, "You know what? We're we're we do
18:50 business in the UK and we're we're not tracking UK addresses properly." Somebody just goes in in 5 minutes,
18:56 updates it, and you're up and running. So there's no slowdown to your business.
19:02 James, I'm so curious to hear your answer to this next question because there's a lot of mainstream conversations about what is the future
19:08 of software. Are we in this era where every software for small businesses at least? Obviously, enterprise is a bit of
19:14 a different game, but where every small business has their own custom software at their fingertips and is that where
19:21 you think that we're moving? Are you fearful for the broader software industry as we've traditionally known
19:28 it? or what's your view of the the short-term future and the longer term future?
19:33 I think you're going to see different levels of it, right? You know, big corporations could say, "Hey, we could
19:38 save a lot of money by building hosting this ourselves. We do this all the time, so this is not very difficult." And they
19:44 may go that route. Uh I see challenges for us for trying to convince smaller companies who are not very technical to
19:51 go our route because they keep being told that they could build software themselves, but they don't realize what
19:56 they're signing up for. they're signing up for a lot. You know, the first security breach they have and they realize that, you know, they don't have
20:04 cyber security insurance or something like that, they're going to be in a lot of trouble. So, I think there's going to
20:09 be a phase of a learning experience of people are going to go down that path. And I I think that uh they're going to
20:15 be really surprised of what it takes to build and release software, the burden,
20:20 the legal burden, the uh the burden of supporting it and things like that. And
20:26 then and I do see, you know, a flood of probably terrible products that are
20:31 coming out that are going to be like quick builds and and you're going to get into it and the software looks
20:37 phenomenal but doesn't have any deft because it was quickly built with little thought. But I do also believe that
20:43 we're going to see some amazing products come out from smaller firms because it
20:48 really opens up the up the the door for building sophisticated systems with
20:53 smaller teams because of the ability of AI. So it's going to be a mishmash of a
21:00 lot of things and it's, you know, buyer beware. Be careful what you choose. do some research because it could be
21:06 something that really looks great but doesn't have any depth and then you're already involved uh with a long-term
21:12 contract or something like that. So, I I think it's going to be a while before the industry really settles down and we
21:18 start to figure this out, but it really is exciting because there's going to be a lot of cool stuff coming out. So, I'm
21:24 looking forward to it. So, I don't have a crystal ball on where that's going. All I know is that we have a product
21:30 offering we think that is the best of all worlds. Yeah, I love that. Let's talk about change agents because
21:36 everything that I've seen about SoftEXIT and the way that you guys are building this and rolling this out, it seems to me like companies will really
21:43 benefit from change agents or chief innovation officers. I don't know what the titles are going to look like in the
21:49 future, but it seems to me like there's someone who can really zoom out on a business and have an as objective of a
21:56 view as we could possibly have into our own businesses. And that's where we can identify and plug those gaps. I think
22:02 that even more so, we've always used that phrase in the entrepreneurial world of working in your business versus working on your business. I think it's
22:09 becoming even more important thanks to solutions like yours, James. So, what's your recommendation for business owners
22:15 who are looking at this saying, "I don't even have the time. I don't even have the capacity for it." Where are those
22:21 change agents? What's that process look like for us to start identifying these gaps and then plugging them?
22:27 Well, I think our our primary first customers that we're targeting are smaller to medium-sized businesses that
22:34 really need some sort of technology and have avoided it for whatever reason, right? Maybe it was intimidating. Maybe
22:40 it was too expensive. Maybe they're reached the the peak of what they can do
22:46 with a spreadsheet and multiple dueling spreadsheets. I think what we need to do
22:52 is we need to help identify those those individuals and those companies and make them feel comfortable with a shift to
22:58 technology. So, one of the companies I work for was 160 Driving Academy, the largest CDL school in the country, over
23:05 160 locations nationwide. And the founder of that company, Steve Gold, was
23:10 a genius. He he realized that this was an underserved market of people that were not comfortable with, you know,
23:17 with learning new things. And he created a system that was entry level for those
23:24 individuals and they came in and started to learn how to improve their lives through a new career and new training.
23:31 Well, I realized there's a whole market of underserved companies that technology is out of reach. And these are the
23:38 companies I'm trying to reach. I believe that our product is so obvious in cost
23:43 effectiveness and ease of use that the companies that use technologies will will it be we won't have to persuade
23:49 them to really sign up for this. I think they'll be like, "Wow, that's obvious. Let's give it a try." And then they'll
23:55 try it and they'll say, "This is so much better." The the real change agent that
24:00 I'm seeking is the company that has never really worked with technology that could really benefit from technology. I
24:07 mean, seriously. I mean, there are I've watched some of my friends who are in some of these type of businesses and
24:13 they have like 25 spreadsheets and and and I said, "How do you know that your formulas even work?" And they turn to me
24:20 and laugh. They go, "Well, they don't cuz they're constantly patching them and trying to fix them. They share a
24:26 spreadsheet with somebody else and then they make a change and they broke the spreadsheet and they have no idea." Uh
24:31 some of these spreadsheets are absolute Swiss Army knives of tabs and tabs and tabs of unrelated things. It's just
24:38 amazing. So I think the change agent we're looking for is that individual and it's going to be we have to work
24:46 carefully to make them feel really comfortable with technology. I mean people like you and I are really comfortable with it. But there's a lot
24:52 of organizations out there that it scares the hell out of them because it's something that's they're not core. it's
24:57 not their core knowledge base and they really want to focus on their business, not technology.
25:02 Yeah, James, listeners have had to hear throughout this year me on the air talking about that I moved this year and
25:09 so anytime you move, you need contractors for various things. And James, I think that there are millions
25:14 of small businesses out there in in trades and contractors that gosh, technology would change the game, not
25:21 only for these business owners, but for all of us as customers. And I think that technology plugs that gap because we all
25:26 have so much going on in our lives and in our businesses and the to get a gutter quote was the hardest thing that
25:33 I've ever done because they just won't reply and that blows my mind because I am a lead that is potential money for
25:38 them. And so plugging that gap into there and you've spelled out it's one it's not as hard as they probably think
25:45 and two there are solutions such as SoftEXIT Studio that are also making it accessible from a cost perspective and
25:52 gosh the ROI on that. I mean, one one job a month in pretty much any single business on Earth and already it's
25:58 massively ROI positive. So, James, I want to squeeze this question in though because I think you have such an interesting vantage point. Having worked
26:04 in big business, having worked with small and medium-sized businesses, some trends seem to go upstream where
26:11 entrepreneurs and small business owners, we have lower stakes. We can play with things first and figure them out and
26:17 then they make their way into big business. But some trends also come from downstream which big businesses figure
26:23 things out and we hope to rep replicate those solutions. We hope to have resources. Now you are very much
26:29 bridging that gap in that way. But with your big business hat on, what are some of those advantages that you see in the
26:35 big business world that you realize, hey, I want every small business owner to have that same advantage.
26:42 You know, I would say of I first, you know, interesting transition period for me. I worked for small companies and
26:48 then I used to write software and couldn't sell software to large companies really wanted to figure out what it was I was missing and then I
26:57 went and joined Motorola which it was at the time over 100,000 employees very large and I learned something that was
27:05 incredibly boring incredibly powerful and it's called process and it is absolutely amazing process is a
27:12 consistent way of doing something and that works and I think Small businesses
27:18 are trying to make up process as they go and they don't really benefit from large organizational experience. And I think
27:25 that's what I bring to the table for SoftEXIT Studio is you're getting a
27:30 really well-defined process especially if you accept one of the uh applications from the app store. It's already thought
27:37 out. We've already worked out the problems for you. But if it doesn't meet your needs specifically, you can customize that. So process is the big
27:45 thing. It's the thing that companies use because they can't micromanage a 100,000
27:50 employees. That that's what I learned because when I work for a small company, if something wasn't going right, I go
27:56 knock on somebody's door and say, "Hey, what's going on, man? You know, this isn't working. There's what can I do to help you?" Right? Can't do that in a
28:03 large corporation. The only way to solve those problems is through process. And process is something that's not readily
28:09 available to some of these smaller companies because these guys have worked their way up from say, you know, one truck or or one mechanic, right? And
28:16 then they got very successful building out. They got 100 people and they could still got they still have hands-on, but
28:22 then they start to find themselves overwhelmed and they plateau. This is where software and process kick in
28:29 because with software and a process you can use dashboards to focus on where the
28:34 issues are and leave the sections that are running running well alone. Right?
28:40 So now you you can focus your time where it needs to be focused and process is
28:45 the tool that tells you where to go. It's kind of like if your you have your dashboard in your car, right? If your
28:51 oil lights on, you don't have to worry about figuring out if you have enough gas. So that's what a corporate
28:56 dashboard will do. It'll tell you, hey, you need to focus on this department because things aren't operating at full
29:02 optimacy. Does that make sense? Yeah, it absolutely makes sense, James. I love that answer. And and really, it's
29:08 something that maybe I think all get advice meets this criteria. Maybe it's not the advice that we want to hear
29:14 process because all of us have our our businesses because we want to do whatever it is that we want. But gosh,
29:19 there's a reason why processes exist and it's because if we are serious about growth and scale and all these words
29:25 that we throw around, they are essential tools to get there. So, I love how readily available that answer was from
29:32 your experience, but I don't know how you're going to top all that to answer my final question, James, but I always ask this one and it is it's quite broad.
29:38 You can take it in any direction you want, not just with your technologist hat on, but especially with your founder
29:44 hat on. And that question quite simply is, what's your best piece of advice for listeners knowing that we're being
29:49 listened to by both entrepreneurs and entrepreneurs at all different stages of their growth journeys. And knowing that
29:54 you're one of us, you're a fellow entrepreneur. What's that one thing you want to leave them with today?
30:00 I would say this is the most exciting time for entrepreneurs. Entrepreneurs are usually they starting out smaller
30:06 and and they're going to grow into something really big and successful. This is a really exciting time. I'm sure
30:12 they've heard the generic statement that AI is a real enabler. It it really is.
30:17 It's it's AI can be your co-founder. I mean, you finally have somebody you can bounce ideas off of that knows
30:23 everything, right? And what's the ideal founder is someone who has skills and knowledge that you don't have. Well, AI
30:30 has got a lot of that, right? And you could work with that and and build a business plan. And then what I recommend
30:36 is if you're doing that, AI has a tendency to want to please you. just tell it to be brutally honest and to
30:42 attack your ideas. That's what you want from a co-founder and then you'll be able to argue with it and then defend
30:48 your position and if it's indefensible then you know you're improving your approach. So right now being an
30:55 entrepreneur is exciting because you can build more things with less people. So
31:01 it's it's it's not a question of letting people go with AI is you're creating opportunities with AI with these new
31:07 companies. And so I believe that all of these uh people that are are starting to
31:13 look for new careers and new challenges in their lives, they can take advantage of this time where AI is affordable,
31:19 within reach, and can help you build great and exciting things. I I think this is the time that we're going to see
31:26 more small business billionaires and trillionaires than we've ever had
31:32 before. And I think everything will be traced back to these days. And and that's the advice. get out there and try
31:38 it and do it. Either do it on the side and start to build up to it or or jump into it both feet. But this is the time
31:45 where bootstrapping actually makes sense. You don't need private equity to build a very powerful business these
31:51 days. We're completely bootstrapped and privately funded. So, we don't have to listen to someone telling us to raise
31:58 our prices to milk our customers. We're going to provide a great service to a lot of companies at an affordable price
32:05 for our entire existence. Uh I think other people can do the same and I think
32:10 these companies will start working together and it'll be really really exciting to see what the small companies can do. So get out there, do it.
32:18 [snorts] Yes. I love that advice and that call to action for all of our listeners across
32:24 the world. James, I'm also very excited because this should just be the beginning of their journey when it comes
32:30 to custom software and deploying these things in their businesses because SoftEXIT Studio out there. And
32:35 James, rather than people listening to you and I talk about it, I'd rather them go forth and actually see it. You've got
32:41 a button there for people to get early access. So for listeners who want to find you and all this cool stuff online,
32:46 drop those links on us. So where should listeners go from here? So softexit.com softexit.com
32:54 is the place to go. Um we're just live. Uh we're we don't have apps on our app
33:00 store, but those are coming. They'll come very fast. Uh take a look at it. Take a look at the website. You know, if
33:07 uh we're very small. We're even accepting, you know, feedback. If somebody wants to send us a note, we're
33:13 it even says in our contact section, you know, just send us a note about anything if you want to talk, right? we're still
33:19 very accessible. So take a look at it there. Um look at the SoftEXIT Studio
33:24 itself. Uh if you jump in, we do provide professional services in also we also
33:30 provide if you have if you sign up with five users or more we will provide a
33:36 portion of free professional services because we know we could set you up fast. It's not going to be a big burden
33:41 on us. So we would look forward to working with uh future people in that aspect as well. But, uh, definitely
33:47 softexit.com is where it's at. We we post everything there. We're going to post things on LinkedIn and Facebook.
33:54 Um, the the links for those will be at softexit.com. Go there, check us out. If
34:00 it's if it looks like it fits your needs, we'd love to do business with you. We'd love to have you as a client.
34:05 Yes. And listeners, you already know we're making it as easy as possible for you to find softexit.com
34:10 down below in the show notes, no matter where it is that you're tuning into today's episode. So, if you're driving, if you're at the gym, if you're in the
34:16 shower, wherever it is that you're listening to James and I, have no fear. You can click through directly from the
34:21 show notes. Otherwise, James, on behalf of myself and all the listeners worldwide, thanks so much for coming on
34:27 the show today. Brian, it's been great. Thanks for having me. It's been a lot of fun. It's
34:32 great talking with you. [snorts]
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James Edgell is the founder of SoftEXIT and a technology executive and entrepreneur with experience at organizations including IBM, Deloitte, Motorola, and McDonald’s. His work has included large-scale digital platforms and leading engineering teams.
At SoftEXIT, he is focused on helping businesses create applications tailored to their operations through SoftEXIT Studio, an AI-enabled no-code business application platform.
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